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Multimedia Round Table | Bombay Flying Club’s “Streetlight”

There is a great discussion going on over at Duckrabbit about Bombay Flying Club’s latest documentary, “Streetlight.” Issues over Flash, sound, video length, and black&white photo choice were brought up in relation to this piece. I think very highly of BFC producers Poul Madsen and Brent Foster, so I wanted to give my two cents.

First, let me get you caught up on the dialogue:

Blogger Adam Westbrook noted that their “trademark use of rich black and white photographs, while stunning, perhaps steals something from the overall piece.”

Photographer Daniel Cuthbert kicked off the Flash debate with his comment that “Flash had a use back in the early days of the web, but it’s starting to look dated.”

Duckrabbit creative director Benjamin Chesterton wrote, “To be honest I was pretty disappointed with the Wasteland Video by BFC (it didn’t really look to me like there was much depth to the relationship between the people in the video and the producers) but I think this is a stunning piece of work that I’d really like to pay tribute to.”

Matt Kirwan of MediaGatherers.com commented that “11 minutes is far too long” and that he tends to lose interest around the three-minute mark.

UK freelance journalist Ciara Leeming agreed with Matt, mentioning that “that kind of length is a very big ask of an audience.”

I watched the video from beginning to end, but I would be lying if I didn’t mention that at some points I wondered how much was left. Now, this may be largely because their full-screen Flash player does not provide the basic player controls with a timer that we all have become so accustomed to. They did, however, implement a function that enables users to jump to different spots in the story from a thumbnail photo gallery, but the corresponding caption only tells the viewer an image number and the image credit, rather than more context to give the user more indication to click on one photo over another.

Personally, I appreciate when a photo is synced to the corresponding natural sound. The end result is a pleasant and natural combination of two senses that enables my brain to make an easy connection. A commenter noted that “this too can be overdone,” which I would have to disagree with because I frankly don’t understand why syncing audio and photos together is too much when that is what is always done in video.

Madsen and Foster are extremely talented photographers, and I thought this was a great storyline. Their video player allows me to become immersed in their story, but the heavy file size is definitely a huge deterrent. To compensate, BFC created a second, low-res version for the non-profit who commissioned the project, but let’s be honest: What paying client is OK with less quality for an optimal end product?

I’ll leave the color vs. black and white photo debate to the photographers out there, but I will say that I was curious to see the natural colors within this story.

Lastly, what do we think about this video length debate? How is it that people are complaining about 11 minutes here, but I have NEVER heard complaints for the length of MediaStorm’s videos, with Intended Consequences run time at 14:45, and The Marlboro Marine at 16:07? So, is it really a matter of time, or an issue of compelling content?

Personally, I think it’s a great idea that they implement a new player for their stories. While they do get creative credit for building this unique player rather than sticking their content into Soundslides, there just aren’t enough benefits to doing so.

Your thoughts?

UPDATE: Producer Poul Madsen followed up this discussion on BFC’s blog with some excellent comments:

” … I actually think this whole discussion about Streetlight leads up to a more general (and much needed!) discussion about clients, audience, expectations and target groups. When you choose to do work for a client – whether that be an NGO, a company, a newspaper … or the Pope – you agree on a set of rules before hand. And then you stick to the agreement.

… The storyline was something that we had more or less agreed upon with the NGO before travelling abroad. We new that the story wouldn’t be an innovative piece in any way but instead an informative piece that would be perfect for a well defined target audience. In other words – the story was never intended for the general public. We still chose to publish it on our own site because we feel it is an important story.”

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Discussion

4 comments for “Multimedia Round Table | Bombay Flying Club’s “Streetlight””

  • ciara

    yeah re the length, you are right – I haven’t thought that about many Mediastorm productions (only Driftless – which I wasn’t into at all).
    I don’t want to be overly critical of BFC because I really love what they do. The colour/black and white thing doesn’t bother me…I think they are great at audio and production.
    For me though, this story simply was’t engaging enough for 11 mins…it meandered for too much. That’s not to say it isn’t a worthy story, because it clearly is. I just can’t help but wonder whether they padded it out a bit because it was a commission. If they were covering this independently as an editorial assignment, would it merit being quite this long? I personally don’t think so….for me 7-8 mins would have been quite enough. It wasn’t a problem with their storytelling technique…I just got bored. I think with multimedia sometimes less is more. To merit being longer it has to be very very strong and to have a much more pronounced narrative arc (think Kingsley’s Crossing or The Sandwich Generation).
    just my personal view – I’m no expert

    ES:

    tienes razón con respecto al largo – no he escuchado eso a propósito de muchas producciones de MediaStorm (sólo Driftless – la cual no me capturó mucho).
    No quiero criticar demasiado a BFC porque realmente me encanta lo que hacen. Lo del color/blanco y negro no me molesta … creo que son fantásticos en audio y producción.
    Sin embargo, para mi esta historia no es lo suficientemente atractiva como para 11 minutos … va demasiado de un lado para otro. Eso no quiere decir que no es una historia que valga la pena, porque claramente lo es. Es sólo que no me puedo dejar de preguntar si es que le agregaron un poco porque era un pedido. Si la estuvieran cubriendo independientemente, sería tan larga? Personalmente no creo .. para mi 7-8 minutos hubieran sido suficientes. No es un problema con su técnica de narración… solamente me aburrí. Creo que con la multimedia a veces menos es más. El mérito para ser más larga tiene que ser muy fuerte y tiene que tener un arco de narración mucho más pronunciado (piensen en ‘ Kingsley’s Crossing’ o ‘The Sandwich Generation’).

    Sólo mi punto de vista personal, no soy un experto.

  • http://www.bombayfc.com Poul Madsen

    Hi everyone!

    Thank for taking interest in our story Streetlight – which is a commissioned piece for an NGO (and not an independent project where we were free to decide content, length etc).

    I will blog about the discussion later today and try to explain some things about this story and why it came out the way it did.

    Thanks!

    Poul

    ES
    Hola a todos!

    Gracias por el interés en nuestra historia Streetlight – la cual fue pedida por una Organización Sin Fines de Lucro (y no un proyecto independiente donde tenemos la libertad de decidir contenido, largo, etc.).

    Escribiré acerca la discusión más tarde durante el día para explicar algunas cosas sobre la historia y porqué resultó ser lo que es.

    Gracias!

    Poul

  • http://www.duckrabbit.info/blog duckrabbit

    Hi Tracy,

    just to say in my comments I was highly appreciative of this work. Having lived in Ethiopia and Addis being my favorite city on earth I think Poul did an amazing job in capturing the place.

    The length I’m sure is down to the clients. Perhaps we need to have another debate on educating clients that ‘less is more’? Its something that we all struggle with.

    Benjamin

    ES

    Hola Tracy,

    Sólo para decir en mis comentarios que aprecié mucho este trabajo. Habiendo vivido en Etiopía y Addis siendo mi ciudad favorita en el mundo, creo que Poul hizo un trabajo impresionante capturando el lugar.

    Estoy seguro que el largo depende de los clientes. ¿Tal vez necesitamos tener otro debate acerca de educar a los clientes con respecto a que ‘más es menos’? Es algo con lo que todos tenemos que luchar.

    Benjamin

  • http://www.brentfoster.com Brent Foster

    Hey Tracy,

    Thanks for blogging about the piece, and bringing up the great length debate among other things. I see Poul already responded, but wanted to chime in as well. As he mentioned, this is a commissioned piece in which length was decided prior to production.

    To me, it’s really simple. If you watch a piece and it feels too long, it is too long.

    I don’t often have to deal with that as a viewer because I turn a piece off before making it to the end if it feels that way. I think the big thing here is we all need to continue to educate our clients with the kind of work we do in order to keep it strong, effective, and interesting to our audience.

    Cheers, Brent

    ES: Hola Tracy,

    Gracias por escribir acerca del especial, y traer a discusión el gran debate con respecto al tiempo, entre otras cosas. Veo que Poul ya respondió, pero quería opinar también. Tal como él ya lo mencionó, esta es un pieza a pedido, en la cual la duración fue decida antes de la producción.

    Para mi, es realmente simple. Si ves el vídeo y se siente muy largo, es muy largo.

    No tengo que tratar con eso muy a menudo como audiencia porque apago el vídeo antes de llegar al final si siento que es muy largo. Creo que el gran tema aquí es que todos necesitamos seguir educando a nuestros clientes con el tipo de trabajo que hacemos, para mantenerlo fuerte, efectivo e interesante para nuestra audiencia.

    Saludos, Brent

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